This week’s show pairs friends, tourmates, and mutual fans Julien Baker (boygenius) and Katie Harkin (HARKIN, Sleater-Kinney). Originally broadcast to kick off the Talkhouse Podcast Live on Insta series, we now present Julien and Katie’s insightful and hilarious convo in podcast form for your listening pleasure! Keep it locked to hear about the unwelcome expectation that artists be creative during quarantine; elitism in the already intimidating world of synthesizers; and the importance of taking control of your own work. Plus — of course, with these two! — John Milton and dick pics… Check it out, and subscribe now to stay in the loop on future episodes of the Talkhouse Podcast, including Bob Mould with Bully‘s Alicia Bognanno, Shamir with Liza Anne, and Hanif Abdurraqib with Adia Victoria. —Elia Einhorn, Talkhouse Podcast host and producer For this week’s episode, everyone you hear recorded themself at their #stayhome studios. Our producer is Mark Yoshizumi. The Talkhouse Podcast theme song was composed and performed by The Range. Please direct all podcast-related ideas, vitriol, and compliments to elia@thetalkhouse.com.